Friday, July 18, 2008

That's Some Grim Photography

Kinda got some Ansel qualities going on hereA barn in Montana, by Adam Grim

From Adam Grim, Photographer, that is.

A couple posts back, I reopened the never-to-be-ended debate about copyrights in the Age of Information. Stuff is out there and it’s easy to get. Whether you’re using Limewire to steal music or you’re grabbing images from sites to use in your blog posts, someone is going to take offense, usually an artist or creative type who invested time and energy—and creativity—in their work.

So I was kind of a dick to Adam Grim, a photographer who takes some nice pictures. I whacked him in the head with my shovel and then scooped a bunch of shit on him. (I don’t like being a dick, even though I’m good at it.) UPDATE: Read Adam's remarks in the comments. He had good reason to be pissed at my using his picture, based on his previous experience.

If any art directors out there need a good image for some piece of collateral, a magazine article, an ad or a website, I’d bet Adam can hook you up cheaper than Getty or Corbis. I'm not sure if Adam's working professionally yet, but he should be. You might be able to get a good deal from him.

Adam, consider my axe done ground and the hatchet done buried. In the future, I will link stolen images much more prominently. Like the ones here.

Sunset, seagull, surfer - good timingSunset at the pier in Oceanside, California, by Adam Grim

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  • I love that barn photo. I could stare at it all day.

    By Blogger Thinking In Vain, at July 18, 2008 at 9:49 AM  

  • Whatever. I think the “artist” overreacted. You weren’t using the image to make a profit. And you didn’t deface or alter it in any way. In fact, you could argue you were reacting to the image like an art critic. We’re constantly posting ads and commenting about them. Why not any other image? You ultimately gave this guy more pr and potential traffic than he ever would have received on his own.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at July 18, 2008 at 1:37 PM  

  • Well, OK. If you've buried the hatchet, then I suppose I can too. But--I don't think you were a dick.

    Do love the barn photo though.

    By Anonymous mydogischelsea, at July 18, 2008 at 1:45 PM  

  • 'Packs, you're humility is as boundless as your disregard for North American copyright laws.

    P.S. I was in yer neck of the woods (kinda?). We were living the suite life in balmy Hollywood/Hallandale. Though it looked more like London this week what with the ubiquitous drizzle and downpours.

    By Anonymous M.M.McDermott, at July 18, 2008 at 3:41 PM  

  • Wow: "your", not "you're".

    Man, I suck.

    By Anonymous M.M.McDermott, at July 18, 2008 at 3:59 PM  

  • Mr. Jetpack,

    First, I'd like to say I appreciate the response to your original blog. I too would like to be done with the back and forth business at hand. However, I feel the need to explain my inicial response.

    About 2 years ago I made the cover of magazine, had the featured photo and 5 others used in the publication. The down side was I didn't know it. My photos were "lifted" and used without my knowledge and concent not to mention the money they made without any compensation to me, the photgrapher. After 10 minutes of talking with the editor we came to an understanding.

    The same thing happened again. This time with the Wisconsin Department of Tourism and yet another national publication.

    So, with this in mind, it was rather shocking yesterday when I found one of my photos being used again without any concent and then have it noted, "Stolen from". I'm sure the tag was all in fun but you can certainly see how it would make one a little iratable.

    Like most photographers I know, all we're looking for is a basic e-mail asking for permission. Had I received one, I would had said go right ahead. It's a respect thing.
    You obviously understand what I'm talking about based on your latest entry.

    Please feel free to use the two photos you currently have up. I appreciate extra traffic on the site and it's always nice to have a different audience see your work.

    Best Wishes


    By Anonymous Adam, at July 18, 2008 at 5:45 PM  

  • Thanks, Adam.

    Best of luck to you with your art. And it is art.

    As Ross Halfin says, "Today, any fuck with a digital camera thinks he's a photographer." Few can pull it off as skillfully as you do.

    By Blogger Jetpacks, at July 18, 2008 at 6:12 PM  

  • Aww group hug!

    By Anonymous mason, at July 18, 2008 at 8:32 PM  

  • Yeah, Mason - totally gay, I know. But I'm glad to have it resolved.

    By Blogger Jetpacks, at July 18, 2008 at 9:14 PM  

  • "I don’t like being a dick, even though I’m good at it."

    Yes. It's true, you excel. But you know what? I heart dicks!

    By Anonymous dirtsister, at July 18, 2008 at 10:52 PM  

  • Dick is good. But good to see you bitches hugging it out. JK but fun to see the things that happen online and how it translates to the "real" world.

    By Blogger Joker, at July 28, 2008 at 11:50 AM  

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